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πΌ Topic: The #1 way to land referrals
Outlining the 4 step referral process
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TOPIC
The #1 way to land referrals

Time and time again, Iβve seen students ask for referrals all wrong.
Here are the 2 most common mistakes:
Asking for a referral in a cold message/email.
Asking for a coffee chat, claiming βto be interested about their careers,β then, making a surprise referral request at the end.
With #1 - itβs simply too soon. Youβre essentially strangers, and people donβt refer strangers, they refer friends or acquaintances at the very least.
With #2 - 1 coffee chat isnβt enough to build rapport, and asking them verbally will only make them feel uncomfortable.
Now, there are exceptions.
For example, Iβve seen people post their referrals on LinkedIn.

But the exception isnβt the rule.
In most occasions, youβll need a different approach.
Thatβs what weβll dive into today.
Get referrals without needing to ask
The best referrals are the ones you donβt need to ask for.
But how do you make them want to refer you without asking?
Itβs by showing them so much value that theyβd feel stupid not to.
Hereβs the playbook.
Step 1: Sending the cold message
The first outreach should be genuine, and feel low-effort for them to respond to.
Hereβs what I mean by that:
Hi there! My nameβs Michael and came across your LinkedIn profile. It amazed me how you were able to transition from finance into tech - how do you navigate that field without being technical? Would love to chat and learn from you, could a quick 15-30 minute call next week work?
Genuine: Anyone can claim βto be interested.β I went a step further by asking specifically what I was interested in - the finance to tech transition.
Low effort: Your call to action should just be a coffee chat. Make it simple for them to reply to.
Step 2: Doing the coffee chat
You scheduled your first coffee chat. Now what?
Now, you prepare 5 or more good questions.
All the questions should be about them, their role, or their company.
By putting the other person in the spotlight, you guarantee a fun chat.
Not only that, but theyβre more likely to remember you because you made them feel important.
Step 3: Setting up a follow-up
Most referrals are handed out in the 2nd or 3rd chats.
But students struggle with setting those up.
The biggest roadblock I hear?
I asked everything I wanted to. How do I schedule a 2nd coffee chat without making the referral obvious?
So you ran out of questions, Iβve been there too.
But setting up a 2nd chat isnβt about having more questions, it should be about updating them.
Updating them on what you might ask?
On the advice they gave you.
Thatβs right.
The best way to set up a 2nd chat is to ask them for actionable advice in the 1st chat.
The advice should be relevant to the role, something like:
Whatβs a project I could do in my free time that would make me a good candidate for your industry?
Then, once youβve acted the advice, reach out to them and ask for a follow-up. It shows that youβre not all talk.
Plus, this creates a nice track record of relevant work related to your desired role.
Step 4: Referral time
Finally, the magic moment.
A few things can happen at this point.
Best case scenario
Youβre no longer a stranger, you feel like a friend to them.
Not only do they feel comfortable with giving you a referral, they WANT TO.
You didnβt ask for it yet so they know youβre being genuine.
You demonstrated value by asking for advice and acting on it.
These 2 things combined can make them offer a referral voluntarily.
Alternate scenario
What if they donβt offer a referral?
Thatβs fine, people arenβt mind readers, they probably didnβt even know you wanted one to begin with.
So, youβll just ask them. Say something like,
Based on our conversations, do you think Iβd be a good fit for this role? Iβd love a referral if youβre comfortable.
Asking for a referral is totally acceptable at this point.
Theyβll either say yes, or offer to introduce you to someone who will.
The big picture
From giving referrals to asking for them, Iβve been on both sides on the coin.
Getting referrals in a long-term game, but the 4 steps outlined above is your surest way to get one as fast as possible.
Thatβs all for today. If you enjoyed this post, share it with a friend!
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-Michael Ly
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